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From sjoerd.simons@collabora.co.uk Tue Jun 15 16:28:08 2010
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Hey,
Long time ago that i talked with most of you, hopefully you're all doing
well and are having fun with your current endeavours :)
As a bit of background of why i'm mailing you all, we're building a logger
service for Telepathy. This allows any IM conversation done via telepathy
(whether it be in gnome shell, Empathy or whatever) to be automagically
logged. Part of this service will be a little library one can use for writing
log viewers.
The current storage backend is based on the logging code from Empathy, which
in turn has its origins in Gossip. Which means the library needs has to be
GPL currently, which is not great for obvious reasons. Hence we were
wondering if there is a possibility to relicense this code to LGPL v2.1+
To be more specific we tracked the code down the follow files from Gossip:
libgossip/gossip-time.c:
Copyright: Imendio AB
Main Author is Richard with contributions from Mikael and Martyn
libgossip/gossip-log.c:
Copyright: Imendio AB
No main author in the license header, code mostly written by Martyn
with contributions from Richard and Mikael
So what it in the end comes down to is: would you be happy to relicense this
code such that we can use it under the LGPL v2.1+ and are you able to make
that decision on behalf of Imendio AB (which from a legal perspective own
the copyrights ttbomk)
Sjoerd
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On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 16:28 +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote:
> Hey,
Hi,
> Long time ago that i talked with most of you, hopefully you're all doing
> well and are having fun with your current endeavours :)
Certainly is :)
> As a bit of background of why i'm mailing you all, we're building a logger
> service for Telepathy. This allows any IM conversation done via telepathy
> (whether it be in gnome shell, Empathy or whatever) to be automagically
> logged. Part of this service will be a little library one can use for writing
> log viewers.
I see.
> The current storage backend is based on the logging code from Empathy, which
> in turn has its origins in Gossip. Which means the library needs has to be
> GPL currently, which is not great for obvious reasons. Hence we were
> wondering if there is a possibility to relicense this code to LGPL v2.1+
>
> To be more specific we tracked the code down the follow files from Gossip:
> libgossip/gossip-time.c:
> Copyright: Imendio AB
> Main Author is Richard with contributions from Mikael and Martyn
>
> libgossip/gossip-log.c:
> Copyright: Imendio AB
> No main author in the license header, code mostly written by Martyn
> with contributions from Richard and Mikael
>
> So what it in the end comes down to is: would you be happy to relicense this
> code such that we can use it under the LGPL v2.1+ and are you able to make
> that decision on behalf of Imendio AB (which from a legal perspective own
> the copyrights ttbomk)
Absolutely fine by me.
--
Regards,
Martyn
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Hi Sjoerd,
Long time no see :) Hope everything is fine!
> To be more specific we tracked the code down the follow files from Gossip:
> libgossip/gossip-time.c:
> Copyright: Imendio AB
> Main Author is Richard with contributions from Mikael and Martyn
>
> libgossip/gossip-log.c:
> Copyright: Imendio AB
> No main author in the license header, code mostly written by Martyn
> with contributions from Richard and Mikael
> So what it in the end comes down to is: would you be happy to relicense this
> code such that we can use it under the LGPL v2.1+ and are you able to make
> that decision on behalf of Imendio AB (which from a legal perspective own
> the copyrights ttbomk)
Micke and I are fine with relicensing any Imendio and/or personally owned code in the mentioned files to LGPL v2.1+. I can make that decision on behalf of Imendio AB (now known as Tinybird Interactive AB).
Cheers,
Richard
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Tinybird Interactive - Inspiring Software
From guillaume.desmottes@collabora.co.uk Thu Jun 17 14:51:24 2010
Subject: Relicensing of empathy-log-store-empathy to LPGL
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Hi Nicolò,
Hi Lars-Peter,
As a bit of background of why i'm mailing you all, we're building a
logger service for Telepathy. This allows any IM conversation done via
telepathy (whether it be in gnome shell, Empathy or whatever) to be
automagically logged. Part of this service will be a little library one
can use for writing log viewers.
The current storage backend is based on the logging code from Empathy
which is currently GPL, which is not great for obvious reasons. Hence we
were wondering if there is a possibility to relicense this code to LGPL
v2.1+.
Both of you contributed to empathy-log-store-empathy. Would you agree to
relicense your contributions to LGPL v2.1+ ?
Nicolò:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/empathy/commit/?id=ee5227403193fe7b5dae7d5c15e33d8a9c385c3f
Lars-Peter:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/empathy/commit/?id=ddae3ae13b1bf6368bd91327357e3c6999ac6a45
http://git.gnome.org/browse/empathy/commit/?id=61226f8d9920b92dd5b2defa606efabde6367b2c
Regards,
G.
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> [...] Both of you contributed to empathy-log-store-empathy. Would
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Fine with me.
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I'm not a license expert so I don't exactly know why GPL is not ok for
this log service.
So I just trust your decision.
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Le jeudi 17 juin 2010 à 17:17 +0200, Nicolo' Chieffo a écrit :
> I'm not a license expert so I don't exactly know why GPL is not ok for
> this log service.
> So I just trust your decision.
We want libtelepathy-logger to be LGPL instead of GPL so non-GPL
application can link to it.
That's also a requirement for libraries in the GNOME platform.
G.
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